
In this video, you’ll gain a clear and practical understanding of follicle count in IVF — what it tells you about your treatment options, what it doesn’t reveal, and how doctors use it to personalise IVF protocols.
Dr Harry Karpouzis, Founder & Scientific Director of IVF Pelargos Fertility Group, explains the science behind follicle count in a patient-friendly way.
Hosted by Barbara Scott, Chair of the Association of Reproductive Reflexologists and founder of Seren Natural Fertility.
Follicle count is one of the most important factors in IVF treatment, yet it is often misunderstood by patients. In this educational presentation, Dr Harry Karpouzis explained why antral follicle count (AFC) plays a crucial role in IVF planning, how it relates to AMH, and why both must be interpreted carefully and together.
The discussion was aimed both at patients beginning IVF and at those who have already undergone treatment and want to better understand how stimulation works, why certain protocols are chosen, and what realistically influences outcomes.
As Dr Karpouzis emphasised, follicle count helps predict how many eggs may be retrieved in a cycle, but it does not predict egg quality or pregnancy success on its own.
At the outset, Dr Karpouzis outlined the key goals of the presentation. These included:
understanding how follicular recruitment works
explaining that more than one follicular wave can occur within a single menstrual cycle
clarifying the relationship between antral follicle count and AMH
showing how follicle number and size influence IVF protocol choice
explaining how ovarian stimulation works in practice
distinguishing clearly between egg quantity and egg quality
A core message was repeated throughout: egg quality does not depend on AFC or AMH. Instead, it depends primarily on age and genetics.
Follicles are small, fluid-filled structures in the ovaries that contain immature eggs. In a natural menstrual cycle, many follicles begin to develop, but usually only one continues growing and ultimately ovulates.
Dr Karpouzis explained that follicles develop from primordial follicles into antral follicles. Antral follicles are the ones that can be seen on ultrasound and are relevant for IVF.
Follicles smaller than 2 mm are considered primordial and do not respond to IVF medication
Follicles between 2 and 5 mm are small antral follicles and may respond to stimulation
Follicles between 5 and 10 mm are larger antral follicles and are generally easier to stimulate
The aim of IVF is to stimulate these antral follicles so that more than one egg can be retrieved. However, IVF cannot create new follicles. As Dr Karpouzis put it, “we cannot stimulate follicles that we do not see.” The number of follicles visible at the start of stimulation predicts the maximum number of eggs that can be obtained.
Dr Karpouzis described the hormonal events that drive follicular recruitment in a natural cycle. After ovulation, progesterone, oestrogen, and inhibin levels gradually fall. This sends a signal to the brain to release follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH).
FSH acts on granulosa cells surrounding small follicles, causing these cells to proliferate and produce oestrogen. This process allows follicles to grow.
Another hormone, luteinising hormone (LH), plays a supportive role later in follicle development. LH stimulates theca cells to produce androgens, which are then converted into oestrogen.
IVF stimulation is designed to mimic this natural physiology. FSH is the primary hormone used to recruit follicles, while LH is supportive and is added selectively, particularly in older women or poor responders with low androgen levels.
For many years, IVF stimulation was thought to be effective only when started at the beginning of the menstrual cycle. Dr Karpouzis explained that research has since shown that multiple follicular waves occur throughout the cycle, including during the luteal phase.
This discovery had major implications for IVF, especially once embryo vitrification became widely available. Because embryos can be frozen, stimulation no longer needs to be perfectly synchronised with the uterine lining.
As a result, stimulation can sometimes begin later in the cycle, and new strategies such as luteal-phase stimulation and double stimulation have become important tools, particularly for poor responders.
Luteal-phase stimulation is commonly used when treatment needs to begin urgently, such as for fertility preservation in cancer patients. It is also used in poor responders when very few follicles are seen at the beginning of the cycle.
Dr Karpouzis noted that in some women, more follicles may be visible later in the cycle than at baseline. In such cases, starting stimulation later may lead to a better outcome.
Double stimulation involves performing one egg collection and, if sufficient follicles remain, immediately starting a second stimulation within the same cycle. This allows two egg collections in one menstrual cycle and can help “win time” in patients with low follicle numbers.
However, he stressed that double stimulation is not suitable for everyone and cannot be planned in advance. If no follicles remain after the first egg collection, a second stimulation is not beneficial. In those cases, waiting for the next cycle may be the better option.
In addition to follicle number, Dr Karpouzis highlighted the importance of follicle size at baseline.
Follicles under 2 mm do not respond to medication
Follicles between 2 and 5 mm often require higher doses of stimulation
Follicles between 5 and 10 mm may respond even to lower doses
Larger follicles present at baseline may grow quickly and increase the risk of premature ovulation if not carefully managed. For this reason, IVF protocols cannot be fixed from the outset. Stimulation is adjusted step by step based on ultrasound findings and hormone levels.
Baseline follicle size and number together help predict follicle coordination and guide medication dosing.
AMH is a blood test measuring a hormone produced by granulosa cells in small antral follicles, particularly those measuring 2–5 mm. Larger follicles do not produce AMH.
Both AMH and AFC predict egg quantity, not egg quality. In many cases, low AFC corresponds with low AMH, and high AFC corresponds with high AMH. However, discrepancies are not uncommon.
Dr Karpouzis emphasised that neither test predicts egg quality. Egg quality depends mainly on age and genetics. AFC and AMH are used together to personalise stimulation protocols and medication dosing.
Although values are age-dependent, Dr Karpouzis outlined general reference patterns:
Low response: AFC below 4–5 follicles and AMH below 1 ng/mL
Normal response: AFC around 5–15 follicles and AMH between 1 and 4 ng/mL
High response: AFC above 18 follicles and AMH above 4 ng/mL
High values are often associated with polycystic ovaries, but a diagnosis of polycystic ovary syndrome cannot be made based on follicle count alone. Cycle regularity, androgen levels, acne, and hair growth must also be considered.
Importantly, what is considered “normal” changes with age. A follicle count that may be acceptable at 44 would be low for a woman in her mid-30s.
Dr Karpouzis explained that protocol choice is based on a combination of follicle number, follicle size, AMH, age, and treatment history.
When AFC and AMH are adequate, higher stimulation doses may be used to recruit more follicles. More eggs increase the statistical chance of obtaining a chromosomally normal embryo.
When follicle numbers are low, aggressive stimulation cannot create new follicles. In these cases, lower-dose or combined approaches may achieve similar results without unnecessary medication.
In severe polycystic ovaries, higher doses may sometimes be required because many small follicles are resistant to stimulation. Modern antagonist protocols and freeze-all strategies have significantly reduced the risk of ovarian hyperstimulation when used correctly.
For poor responders, IVF is often approached as a process over multiple cycles rather than a single attempt. Strategies discussed included:
mild or combined stimulation
double stimulation or embryo banking
luteal-phase starts
avoiding oral contraceptive suppression
careful priming when follicle coordination is poor
In endometriosis, stimulation protocols are adapted to protect ovarian reserve while suppressing disease activity during frozen cycles. In normal responders, a step-down approach is often preferred, starting with higher doses and adjusting as the response becomes clear.
Dr Karpouzis addressed common questions about add-ons. Growth hormone does not increase follicle number. Some studies suggest a possible effect on mitochondrial activity and egg quality, but evidence remains inconclusive.
DHEA also does not increase follicle number. It may improve follicular responsiveness in some patients, but there is no solid evidence that it creates additional follicles.
No medication or supplement can create new follicles, he stressed.
Antral follicle count is one of the most important factors in IVF planning, and baseline follicle size is equally important. AMH and AFC provide complementary information and should always be interpreted together.
Neither AFC nor AMH predicts egg quality. Egg quality depends mainly on age and genetics.
IVF outcomes are optimised through personalised, flexible protocols that respond to each patient’s biology rather than fixed, one-size-fits-all approaches. Understanding follicle count allows patients to engage more confidently in treatment decisions and set realistic expectations throughout their IVF journey.
This concept has been around for more than ten years. In the past, before vitrification was available, most embryo transfers were fresh. If you started stimulation in the luteal phase or mid-follicular phase, a fresh transfer was not possible. Freezing techniques at that time could compromise embryo quality.
With vitrification, we now know that freezing does not negatively affect embryos. We can safely freeze embryos, transfer them later in a frozen cycle, and achieve equal or even higher success rates. This is partly because the implantation window in frozen cycles is not affected by high hormone levels.
At the same time, we discovered that there are multiple follicular waves during a single menstrual cycle. This means that later in the cycle, the number of follicles visible on ultrasound may be higher than at the beginning. By starting later, we may gain one or two additional eggs.
We also know that egg number is important, especially in older women, because the more eggs retrieved, the higher the statistical chance of obtaining a chromosomally normal egg. Double stimulation also allows us to gain time by performing two egg collections within one cycle.
Yes. We can freeze embryos and, depending on age, perform PGT-A. If we identify a chromosomally normal embryo, it is extremely valuable and offers very good chances.
If we do not find a normal embryo, we continue. Even without PGT-A, having more eggs and more embryos increases the likelihood of eventually achieving a chromosomally normal embryo.
For example, if a woman is 40 years old and we retrieve two eggs, the chance of one being chromosomally normal is much lower than if we retrieve ten eggs. However, a woman with only two follicles will never produce ten eggs in one cycle. She must repeat cycles and continue embryo accumulation.
Yes, it is more demanding. We are effectively talking about two stimulations and two egg collections in one cycle. The benefit is time.
Instead of waiting for another menstrual cycle to repeat stimulation, the patient continues medication for a longer period and undergoes a second egg collection within the same month. The goal is to obtain more eggs in a shorter timeframe. That is the main advantage.
There is no evidence that double stimulation improves egg quality. Some studies suggested slightly better quality in luteal-phase stimulation, but this is not proven.
For patients with a normal follicle count, there is usually no reason to pursue this approach, as a sufficient number of eggs can be obtained with standard follicular-phase stimulation.
We mainly reserve this strategy for poor responders, older women, or patients who need urgent fertility preservation, such as those preparing for cancer treatment.
In most studies, the dose used is approximately 75 mg of DHEA daily, usually taken for about 2 months.
However, I often see women in their forties delaying IVF to complete a full course of DHEA. Given that we do not have conclusive evidence for its benefit, and knowing that egg number and quality decline with age, I would not recommend delaying IVF for too long solely to take DHEA.
The appropriate approach is usually to take it for around two months before stimulation, but this must be individualised.
Yes. Poor responders often need to bank embryos. If only one or two eggs are retrieved, an embryo may not develop, or it may be abnormal after PGT-A.
If we can perform double stimulation successfully in one cycle, we do so. If not, we may freeze embryos and repeat stimulation in a later cycle when the follicle count appears better.
The timing of embryo transfer is not critical once embryos are frozen. What matters is creating the best possible embryos.
Ideally, the baseline ultrasound should be performed in the first ten days of the cycle, after menstruation begins.
If the scan is done later in the cycle, a dominant follicle or cyst may distort the count. Irregular cycles do not usually prevent assessment, but early-cycle scanning provides the most accurate information for planning stimulation.
There are two major factors here: low follicle count and age. At 44, egg quality is significantly affected.
Most studies suggest that, on average, 15–25 eggs are needed at this age to obtain one chromosomally normal egg. This is an average; some women may be luckier, but statistically, the odds are low.
With four to five follicles, it is unlikely to retrieve enough eggs in one cycle. The chances are not zero, but they are very low. Zero chance applies only in menopause.
The role of the fertility specialist is to be honest about probabilities. If the chances are under 2%, many patients may decide not to continue. Others may still wish to try. Egg donation, in this age group, offers significantly higher success rates.
We always assess the couple as a unit. Mildly reduced morphology alone is not always a major issue, and antioxidants or supplements may help slightly.
If sperm parameters are severely reduced, IVF with ICSI is usually indicated. However, the decision depends on the full clinical picture, including the woman’s age, ovarian reserve, tubal status, and hormone levels.
In some cases, less invasive options such as IUI may still be appropriate. Individualised assessment is essential.
Even with a good follicle count, chances decline significantly after age 45 due to egg quality. When a low follicle count is combined with advanced age, the situation becomes even more difficult.
Egg quality depends almost entirely on age. Follicle count affects quantity, not quality.
We usually cannot significantly increase egg number. Treatments such as ovarian PRP or stem-cell approaches are experimental. Some studies suggest modest improvements in follicle recruitment and AMH, but these are not miraculous treatments.
For example, PRP may increase follicle numbers from two or three to five or six, but we do not have conclusive evidence that this increases live birth rates or improves egg quality.
Other options such as DHEA or growth hormone have limited and inconclusive evidence. Age remains the dominant factor.
At Pelargos IVF, we have a day-5 transfer policy. In a good laboratory, there is no benefit to day-3 transfer.
If an embryo cannot reach day 5 in optimal laboratory conditions, it is highly unlikely it would have resulted in a pregnancy if transferred on day 3. Day-5 embryos undergo natural selection and offer higher implantation potential.
The goal is to transfer embryos with the highest chance of success, not simply to transfer embryos earlier.
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