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IVF with own eggs: A beginner s guide

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Harry Karpouzis, MD
Fertility Specialist; Founder & Scientific Director, IVF Pelargos Fertility Group
From this event you will find out:
  • What are the key steps in the IVF process when using your own eggs?
  • How can you improve your chances of IVF success using your eggs?
  • What are the most common myths about IVF, and what is the reality?
  • How should you prepare physically and emotionally for your IVF journey?

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During this event, Dr Harry Karpouzis, Founder and Scientific Director of IVF Pelargos Fertility Group, explained everything you need to know about IVF with your own egg process, explained common myths and facts, as well as how to prepare for your IVF journey to obtain a successful outcome.

IVF with Own Eggs: A Beginner’s Guide

In this introductory webinar, Dr Harry Karpouzis explained the fundamentals of IVF with a woman’s own eggs, focusing on the basic principles every patient should understand before starting treatment. The session was designed as a step-by-step overview, especially for people at the beginning of their fertility journey.

Dr Karpouzis emphasised that while IVF can become complex, understanding the basics helps patients feel more informed, prepared, and confident throughout the process.

What Is IVF?

IVF stands for in vitro fertilisation. Dr Karpouzis explained that IVF means fertilisation happens outside the body, in a laboratory.

In practical terms, eggs are collected from the ovaries and sperm is collected from the male partner. These are combined in the laboratory under controlled conditions so fertilisation can occur. Once embryos are created, one or more embryos are transferred into the uterus, and any remaining embryos can be frozen for future use using vitrification, a modern freezing technique that does not compromise embryo quality.

IVF vs ICSI: What Is the Difference?

Dr Karpouzis clarified that there are two main fertilisation techniques used in IVF:

In conventional IVF, eggs and sperm are placed together in the laboratory, and fertilisation occurs naturally.

In ICSI (intracytoplasmic sperm injection), a single sperm is injected directly into each egg. This technique was originally developed for severe male factor infertility but is now commonly used even when sperm parameters are normal.

As Dr Karpouzis explained, ICSI is often preferred when there are few eggs available, because it reduces the risk of failed fertilisation.

Why Do Couples Need IVF?

According to Dr Karpouzis, IVF is recommended in several common situations, including:

Blocked fallopian tubes, where natural conception is not possible
Severe male factor infertility, such as very low sperm count, motility, or morphology
Age-related fertility decline affecting both egg number and quality
Endometriosis, where IVF often offers the best chance of pregnancy
Unexplained infertility, especially when other treatments have failed
Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) that does not respond to ovulation induction or IUI

He noted that IVF is also advised when less invasive treatments, such as ovulation induction or intrauterine insemination (IUI), have already failed.

When Is a Couple Considered Subfertile?

Dr Karpouzis explained that fertility is assessed differently depending on age:

For women under 35, a couple is considered subfertile after one year of regular, unprotected intercourse without pregnancy.
For women over 35, investigation and treatment should begin after six months, as time becomes a more critical factor.

In older patients or in situations where time is limited, such as before cancer treatment, IVF may be recommended sooner to maximise success.

When IVF Is the Most Appropriate Option

Dr Karpouzis highlighted that IVF is often the most effective next step when:

Other treatments, such as IUI have failed
There is unexplained infertility with low ovarian reserve
Both fallopian tubes are blocked
Rapid conception is medically necessary

He also noted that current clinical guidelines do not strongly support IUI in unexplained infertility, particularly when ovarian reserve is low, making IVF a more effective option.

The IVF Process Step by Step

Ovarian Stimulation

IVF begins with ovarian stimulation using hormones similar to natural FSH and LH. These medications encourage multiple follicles to grow in the ovaries.

Stimulation can be done in different ways:

  • Conventional stimulation with injectable hormones

  • Semi-natural cycles using tablets

  • Natural cycles without medication

The goal is to allow follicles to grow to maturity.

Egg Retrieval

Once follicles are ready, eggs are collected through a minor procedure known as egg retrieval. Dr Karpouzis explained that this procedure is straightforward and usually performed under sedation, especially when multiple follicles are present.

Fertilisation and Embryo Development

After egg retrieval, eggs are fertilised using IVF or ICSI. Embryos are then cultured in the laboratory.

At Pelargos, embryos are typically grown to the blastocyst stage (day 5), which allows better selection of embryos with higher implantation potential.

Embryo Transfer: Fresh or Frozen

Embryos can be transferred in the same cycle (fresh transfer) or frozen for transfer in a later cycle.

Dr Karpouzis explained that freeze-all strategies are increasingly common, as frozen embryo transfers often result in equal or better success rates. Freezing may be necessary in cases of:

  • PCOS with high hormone levels

  • Elevated progesterone on trigger day

  • Endometriosis

  • Inadequate endometrial thickness

The Importance of Personalised Stimulation

Throughout the presentation, Dr Karpouzis stressed that IVF success depends heavily on personalised treatment.

He explained that protocols should be adjusted based on:

  • AMH levels

  • Antral follicle count

  • Hormone blood tests during stimulation

  • Ultrasound monitoring

Medication doses, timing, trigger choice, and even the number of hours between trigger and egg retrieval can affect egg maturity and outcomes.

Using Your Own Eggs: Benefits and Limitations

The main advantages of using one’s own eggs include:

  • A genetic link to the child

  • Emotional satisfaction of biological parenthood

However, Dr Karpouzis noted that success rates depend strongly on age and ovarian reserve. After age 40, both egg quantity and quality decline significantly, reducing the chances of success per cycle.

Preparing for IVF: Essential Tests

Before starting IVF, Dr Karpouzis recommended a thorough assessment, including:

  • AMH testing

  • Antral follicle count

  • Thyroid function (TSH ideally below 2.5)

  • FSH, LH, and oestradiol

  • Semen analysis

  • Ultrasound to exclude fibroids or polyps

Additional tests may be advised based on medical history, such as sperm DNA fragmentation, thrombophilia screening, immunological testing, hysteroscopy, or microbiome analysis.

What Determines IVF Success?

Dr Karpouzis highlighted several key factors:

Number of Eggs Retrieved

Evidence shows that egg number matters, especially with increasing age:

  • Under 35: around 12 eggs may be sufficient

  • 35–37: 15–20 eggs

  • 38–40: around 20 eggs

  • Over 40: often more than 20 eggs may be needed to obtain one chromosomally normal embryo

He stressed that while pregnancy is still possible with fewer eggs, statistically, “the more eggs, the better” in older age groups.

Embryo Quality and the IVF Laboratory

Embryo grading, embryologist experience, laboratory quality, and time-lapse technology all play a major role. At Pelargos, artificial intelligence systems are also used to support embryo selection and implantation prediction.

Understanding PGT-A

Preimplantation genetic testing for aneuploidy (PGT-A) involves biopsying embryos to check chromosome numbers.

Dr Karpouzis explained that PGT-A is usually recommended for:

  • Women over 40

  • Recurrent miscarriages

  • Recurrent implantation failure

PGT-A may reduce miscarriage risk and improve the chance of success per transfer, although it does not increase cumulative pregnancy rates from all embryos.

When IVF Does Not Succeed

If IVF fails, Dr Karpouzis explained that further cycles are often needed. Additional investigations may include:

  • Genetic testing

  • Hysteroscopy

  • Endometrial tests

  • Immunology assessments

  • Advanced sperm testing

Supportive approaches such as acupuncture, lifestyle modification, and stress management may also play a role.

When the prognosis is very poor, alternative options such as egg donation or surrogacy may be discussed.

Emotional Support During IVF

Dr Karpouzis acknowledged that IVF is emotionally demanding. He stressed the importance of psychological support, whether through professionals, family, support groups, or patient communities.

“IVF is stressful,” he explained, “and no one should go through it alone.”

Looking to the Future

Dr Karpouzis concluded by highlighting ongoing advances in fertility treatment, including AI-based embryo selection, new endometrial tests, PRP, mitochondrial therapies, and stem cell research.

While IVF is challenging, he emphasised that success rates continue to improve, offering real hope for many patients.

IVF with own eggs: A beginner s guide | FAQ

How many eggs are too risky to have during ovarian stimulation? Could it be a reason to stop the stimulation altogether and lose all the potential yield? How common is it to stop ovarian stimulation because there are too many eggs, leading to cycle cancellation or no egg collection?

Hyperstimulation was a significant problem in the past. However, I haven’t seen severe cases in our unit for over 3 and a half years. The reason is that we now use vitrification, a freezing method that does not compromise embryo quality. When we suspect hyperstimulation, we freeze all embryos, which greatly reduces the risk—sometimes bringing it close to 0.

Additionally, we use special triggers when hyperstimulation is suspected. That’s why it is crucial to accurately measure follicle numbers and estrogen levels. By using the correct trigger and opting for freezing instead of fresh transfer, we minimize the risk of hyperstimulation. Clinics should have zero tolerance for hyperstimulation because modern methods allow us to prevent it.
We do not cancel cycles due to high estrogen levels. Instead, we can adjust the medication dosage, reduce the dose, or use other strategies to control the response. There are ways to prevent complications, so cycle cancellation is generally unnecessary nowadays.

Do you accept patients aged 55 for IVF with own eggs or egg donation in your clinic?

Unfortunately, in Greece, the upper age limit for IVF is currently 54. Therefore, we are unable to offer treatment to patients aged 55 or older.

Can ICSI be more harmful or less beneficial than conventional IVF in some situations?

That’s a complex question. If we are talking about risks or problems for the baby, the answer aligns with what we explained earlier. However, if we focus on the chances of a positive pregnancy test, the situation varies. Nowadays, because ICSI improves fertilization rates, conventional IVF has been somewhat overlooked. However, in cases where sperm quality is excellent, without hidden issues such as DNA fragmentation or oxidative damage, conventional IVF may have benefits due to natural selection.

If the sperm is thoroughly assessed and no hidden issues are found, and if the patient is young with a good number of eggs, splitting between ICSI and IVF can sometimes be beneficial. However, as a general rule, when the egg count is lower or there is any male factor infertility—whether mild or severe—ICSI provides advantages in fertilization and the conversion rate to day-five embryos.

May a heavy cold before the start of stimulation harm the quality of the eggs? If so, how long should a woman wait after the illness before beginning stimulation?

This is a difficult question to answer with clear evidence. It depends on the severity of the illness. If it’s just a simple cold without a fever, it shouldn’t have any impact. However, if it’s a severe flu, influenza A/B, or a COVID-19 infection, it could potentially cause issues, though the long-term effects are unclear.

A mild cold should not be a reason to delay stimulation. If there is no fever or other severe symptoms, I wouldn’t recommend postponing the process.

Does IVF increase the possibility of having more than one baby?

Yes, if more than one embryo is transferred, the likelihood of twins or triplets increases. That’s why it’s important to have a thorough consultation with your doctor before making this decision.

Can a couple choose to transfer more than 1 embryo for twins or triplets?

It depends on the age group and legal regulations in each country. For example, in Greece:

  • For women under 35 undergoing their first transfer, we usually transfer only 1 embryo.
  • If a previous attempt has failed, we may transfer up to 2.
  • Between ages 35 and 40, 2 embryos can be transferred, and in cases of repeated failures, sometimes 3.

The law allows a specific number of embryos to be transferred depending on age. In egg donation cases, no more than 2 embryos can be transferred. However, it’s essential to balance the benefits and risks. Twin pregnancies come with higher risks, such as hypertension, preeclampsia, gestational diabetes, and an increased likelihood of a Cesarean section. If a high-quality embryo is available, transferring one can still provide a good chance of success while reducing complications.

If IVF doesn’t work, would your clinic go straight to ICSI?

ICSI is a variation of IVF—it’s still in vitro fertilization, but we inject the sperm directly into the egg. If the fertilization rate with conventional IVF is poor, then switching to ICSI is the logical next step. The decision depends on how many eggs were fertilized and the overall fertilization rate. The goal of ICSI is to increase fertilization success.

Besides downregulation (already done for 6 months with Ryeqo), what would you consider in an IVF cycle for a woman aged 36 with adenomyosis, endometriosis, and recurrent implantation failure? The main issue is poor embryo quality—only morulas on day 5 or poor-quality blastocysts.

This is not a straightforward IVF case. While downregulation can help with adenomyosis and endometriosis, the timing is crucial. It’s generally better to first stimulate the ovaries, collect as many eggs as possible, freeze the embryos, and then downregulate before the embryo transfer. If downregulation is done before stimulation, it may reduce the number of eggs retrieved, which is particularly concerning in cases where endometriosis is associated with low ovarian reserve.

Endometriosis is a complex condition often linked to immunological and chronic infection issues. We use specific protocols tailored for endometriosis, which may include immunological treatments or antibiotics if chronic infection is suspected.

Egg quality is another challenge. Sometimes, improving sperm selection techniques can help, but if poor-quality embryos are consistently an issue, it may indicate an egg quality problem. In such cases, retrieving more eggs increases the chances of finding a viable one.

For severe endometriosis, surgical intervention before embryo transfer may be considered in rare cases. However, treatment should be highly individualized based on the full medical history.

Should there be a break between 2 stimulations? If yes, how long?

Usually, we advise leaving a period before starting again to allow the body to return to normal hormonal levels. However, you can wait longer if needed. The length of the break depends on factors such as age and ovarian reserve. In cases of poor responders, especially women with low ovarian reserve, we sometimes apply double stimulation protocols. This means that immediately after egg collection, a second stimulation is performed to retrieve more eggs in one cycle. As a general rule, most patients wait for a full period before starting the next stimulation, rather than beginning immediately after the egg collection.

What if a woman has a fundal fibroid of 6.4 cm, one blocked tube, and another removed due to an ectopic pregnancy? Can IVF be a solution?

IVF is the only solution in this case. If one tube has been removed and the other is blocked, natural conception is not possible.

Regarding the fibroid, whether it needs to be removed is a separate issue. There are differing opinions on this. Fibroids larger than 5 cm may affect uterine contractility and could require removal before embryo transfer. However, if the fibroid is outside the uterine cavity, IVF can be attempted without removal.

If the question relates to whether removing the fibroid would unblock the tube and allow for natural conception, the answer is that even if the tube becomes patent, it may not function properly afterwards. Given the circumstances, I would recommend a proactive approach with IVF to maximize the chances of success.

What is your opinion on using ovarian injections with exosomes derived from umbilical cord stem cells for poor responders in advanced maternal age?

We have not worked with this treatment. It is something I would need to review in more detail to assess the available evidence. While some studies exist, this treatment is not currently applied in practice in Greece. Before considering its use, we would need to thoroughly examine the scientific data supporting its effectiveness.

As of now, there is no conclusive evidence on how exosome injections would help improve fertility outcomes. It remains an experimental treatment, similar to stem cells from adipose tissue, which have been used but also lack definitive proof of success. Ovarian PRP and stem cell treatments have shown some promise in increasing egg quantity, but we cannot yet confirm their impact on egg quality or pregnancy rates. The same applies to exosomes.

How can egg quality be improved?

Egg quality is a significant concern. Lifestyle modifications, including a healthy diet and fertility-focused nutrition plans designed by dietitians, can help. Certain vitamins have some supporting evidence, though no treatment is miraculous. The most well-researched supplements include melatonin, coenzyme Q10, vitamin D, and folic acid.

A combination of these vitamins may help reduce oxidative stress and potentially improve egg quality. However, the primary determinants of egg quality are age and genetic factors, and there is no guaranteed way to improve it. Experimental treatments like stem cells and PRP show some promise, but their effects on quality are not yet fully proven.

Should one stop taking the pill a few months before stimulation for egg freezing? Can that help retrieve more eggs?

It depends on the individual case. For women with very low ovarian reserve, it may be better to use a natural cycle or estrogen priming rather than a pill.

For those with irregular cycles due to polycystic ovaries, the pill does not negatively affect outcomes and may even help regulate follicular growth, reducing the risk of dominant follicles disrupting stimulation.

In general, if the pill is used, we advise stopping it at least six days before starting stimulation. This is typically enough time for the ovaries to recover and maximize egg retrieval, unless the ovarian reserve is extremely low.

How do you keep embryos alive when freezing them? Can you explain vitrification process?

In the past, freezing techniques were challenging. Today, we use vitrification, a fast-freezing method that prevents ice crystal formation inside the embryo. This technique preserves embryo quality much better than slow freezing.

When embryos are thawed, some may not survive the process. However, in most cases, embryos that do not survive are of poor quality and would likely not result in pregnancy even if transferred fresh.

For the majority of embryos, vitrification does not negatively affect their quality. It is similar to storing food in a freezer—when done correctly, embryos can remain viable for several years and still have the same potential for implantation.

I am 42, I did mini IVF with Clomid and Monopur with own eggs. My AMH 6.5 (pmol/l). When I did it with Clomid alone, I did get 4 follicles on day 11. Is this a good idea?

Okay, it’s a protocol. I don’t understand exactly the protocol. Most probably, it was a combination of Clomid and Menopur. We use it many times, especially in women with low ovarian reserve, because you do have a low ovarian reserve with an AMH of 6.5. We go a lot with the size and the number of the follicles as well. Usually, when we have more than 4 follicles, we prefer to go on high doses. When we have less than 4 follicles, there is no reason to use high doses because, even if we do, we will not get more than 3 or 4 eggs. These eggs can be obtained even with lower doses or pills.

Going ahead with a combination of a low dose of Menopur and Clomid is a protocol that we also use in women with low ovarian reserve with a few follicles initially. It works sometimes. We can also combine it with Duphaston, which prevents ovulation. It is a protocol that can give good results. There are other protocols as well, and always, one IVF cycle is experimental because we observe how you react and use this information for our benefit in a second attempt.

Is PGT-A dangerous? Why don’t we always do it if it prevents the implantation of abnormal embryos?

PGT-A involves removing some cells from an embryo, making it an intrusive procedure. In well-experienced laboratories, the risk of traumatizing or injuring the embryo is minimal. However, there is always a human factor involved, and sometimes, an embryo might be harmed by removing some cells.

You need to balance this risk against the risk of chromosomal abnormalities. The risk of chromosomal abnormalities in women aged 33-34 is relatively low, but it increases significantly in women aged 37-40. For women around 38–40 years old, the advantages of PGT-A outweigh the disadvantages. For women under 35, we lack clear evidence.

Additionally, PGT-A can sometimes yield conflicting results. It may indicate that an embryo is euploid (normal), aneuploid (abnormal and not transferred), or mosaic (partially abnormal). Some mosaic embryos may still be transferable after genetic counselling because they might develop into healthy embryos later. Since the biopsy is taken from the outer part of the embryo, rather than the nucleus, it is not 100% accurate.

Sometimes, PGT-A may rule out embryos that could have resulted in a pregnancy if transferred. It is a complex discussion. I am a big supporter of PGT-A because it helps determine the embryo’s genetic status and the reasons for failure. However, we typically recommend it for recurrent implantation failures, recurrent miscarriages, and patients close to 40.

Nowadays, some clinics use AI-based embryo selection, like the CHLOE system, which prioritizes embryos based on statistical data without causing trauma. This can be useful in cases where PGT-A is not necessary.

If a 35.5-year-old woman has an AMH of 0.89 and an AFC of 9-15 follicles, how many IVF cycles would it take? How many embryos would be made in one cycle?

If someone has 9–15 follicles, they might be able to retrieve 9–15 eggs in one go. However, retrieving all 15 is challenging because not all will reach the right size at the same time. Realistically, you might get around 9 eggs per cycle.

At age 35, to have a 70% chance of success, studies suggest collecting around 15 eggs in total. This doesn’t mean that if you collect only 9 eggs, one of them won’t lead to a pregnancy—35 is still a good age with decent egg quality. Even 8 eggs might result in a pregnancy.

The number of embryos you obtain depends on sperm quality, egg quality (which is unpredictable), and other factors like genetics, hidden endometriosis, etc. You might get around 8–10 embryos, but this depends on the right protocol. Check the final embryo grading—if you have a high-quality blastocyst (e.g., a 4AA), your chances are good.

If a male has a herpes flare-up during transfer, should we still proceed with fertilization using a fresh sperm sample? Would you recommend freezing sperm in this instance?

Herpes and other infections can affect sperm quality at the time of collection. However, if stimulation has already started, I wouldn’t stop the fertilization process because of a herpes infection. Instead, I would treat the herpes while proceeding with the cycle. If the concern is about passing the virus to the embryo—this does not happen through sperm.

Infections during sperm collection can impact sperm quality, but they do not necessarily justify cancelling the fertilization process.

I transferred 6 untested embryos in 3 separate cycles. Would you advise using donor eggs at this point? I’m turning 39 this July.

I don’t know the grading of the embryos or the full details. If they were good-quality day-5 embryos, the issue might not be the embryos themselves. If you are open to egg donation, your chances would be much higher. However, if you are not ready for this step, another attempt with PGT-A might help identify if the embryos are chromosomally normal.

If failures continue, consider investigating other factors such as endometrial issues, chronic infections, implantation window, and immunology before another transfer. The patient mentioned having five good-to-medium quality embryos, meaning embryo development is not the issue. If the problem is not the embryo, even donor eggs might not solve it—so further investigation is necessary.

Some clinics still freeze embryos on day 3. Is this outdated?

Some clinics do it, but in a high-quality lab, embryos should ideally be left to develop until day 5. The reason is that embryos reaching day 5 have undergone natural selection, eliminating weaker ones. Freezing on day 3 may result in transferring embryos that wouldn’t have developed further.

In our lab, we do not freeze embryos on day 3. The goal is not just to transfer an embryo, but to achieve a pregnancy. Day-5 embryos have higher implantation potential, so unless there is a risk of having no embryos at all, freezing on day 3 is not recommended.

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