How to prepare for IVF.
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Nadia Caroppo, MD
Head of the International Medical Team at Equipo Juana Crespo, Equipo Juana Crespo
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Embryo Implantation, Failed IVF Cycles, Success Stories
In this webinar, Dr Nadia Caroppo, Gynaecologist and The Head of the International Medical Team at Equipo Juana Crespo, Valencia, presented discussed 1 tough real-life case about a couple after recurrent implantation failure. Dr Caroppo explained the main causes, and what steps should be taken to get to the final positive outcome.
PGT-A testing is not advised when you have donor eggs because the younger the eggs are, the lower probability of having abnormal embryos. That’s not something we advise doing unless a partner has an alteration in the chromosomal count that needs to be tested. Then we do it, but also if the couple has the desire to go ahead with PGT-A testing. We transferred 2 embryos because of her past medical history, she had chemical pregnancies with single embryo transfers, and after that, she never got pregnant with one embryo transfer. You have to personalize that, nowadays throughout the world, in every clinic, the gold standard is to transfer 1 single embryo and diminish the risk of a twin pregnancy, that’s correct, but sometimes you need more embryos just to get pregnant.
In this couple’s particular case, they got pregnant with twins, I told her I’m transferring 2 because you will get pregnant with one with all your history. She was so well-prepared she got pregnant with twins, so that just simply worked the best way. Some couples have to have a single embryo transfer, some others are not advised to do a single embryo transfer, it all depends on the couple and the history of those patients.
Single chain DNA fragmentation is perfectly sorted out with ICSI. You can choose the sperm which moves the best and has a normal structure. When you have a double-strand DNA fragmentation, several techniques can be used like the FertileChip, MACS and other things to sort them out but you have to do them only if you have a normal count. If you have a male factor, that’s not good to do and in their particular case, they had very good embryos so that DNA fragmentation was not a problem for us and knowing that it’s a single chain and by selecting those sperms you just rule out the DNA fragmentation that’s it we didn’t use it in their case.
I don’t know if your embryos were day-3 or day-5 embryos, maternal age is a very important factor, sometimes it’s a history of abnormal embryos, and sometimes it’s the famous unexplained infertility with no diagnosis, everything looks fine, but it does not look fine. That infertility of unknown origin is generally adenomyosis and endometriosis. I hope you find some guidance and see if you can get an unknown
It’s usually a uterine problem, nonetheless being 40, there is a good chance that sometimes embryos are not healthy, and what happens is that 70% of implantation failures happen because of abnormal embryos. For the rest 30%, you have to study more things, and, if you have unexplained fertility, look for some advice because there can be some signs of adenomyosis or endometriosis that are very subtle, but that is making your uterus non-functional. I don’t have all your tests to see, but those are the things that I think may be happening.
It depends on which type of endometritis you have. If it was bacterial endometritis, they usually do an antibiotic scan to see which antibiotic these bacteria are sensitive to. If it is mild chronic endometritis that has nothing to do with bacterial endometritis we typically give anti-inflammatory schemes with different types of medications like Ibuprofen, Streptokinase, Acetaminophen and oral probiotics. If you had a diagnosis and you’ve been treated 2 times, it would be good for you to undergo a diagnostic hysteroscopy just to rule out that the endometrial lining looks like the one I told you, if it’s good, that’s done you don’t need to do any other biopsies again.
Atosiban is not used very often because the uterus is a contraction inhibitor we use in women who enter into preterm labour. The uterus has low receptors for those medications, and it has been proven in lots of cases that those receptors are nearly in existence during the endometrial preparation phase with the nutrients that it’s not pregnant and it’s not overdue and in the long run with the pregnancy. Those receptors generally appear around weeks 17 and 20 of pregnancy.
It’s very difficult to get out Atosiban because it’s very expensive, and there is no scheme implied in giving it, so we do not know the exact dosages nor how to administer it, so it’s very difficult. We used it in the past, and we had no differences in getting women pregnant the regular way, let’s say with the endometrial preparation we do versus using Atosiban. I don’t know if, in your case, that made the difference, maybe it did, so you just contracted a bit more, and you benefited from it. I’m not saying that it’s something that shouldn’t be used, sometimes you have to choose to whom you can administer those medications.
I don’t know which type of endometrial preparation you underwent between preparation, maybe just the removal of the fallopian tube and the cyst and the myoma were not enough. Sometimes we have to do a hysteroscopy as we did on our patient just to modulate the cavity and possibly treat you with medication just to do another type of uterine preparation. Especially if you had very good embryo qualities and never had a positive pregnancy test. I think that your case should be sorted out from another point of view, and you should just study it a bit more before going ahead with an IVF or embryo transfer.
You said you had a hysteroscopy, but diagnostic hysteroscopy is not the same as surgical hysteroscopy. If you do not know what you are going to look for, you may see that that diagnostic hysteroscopy is normal, but it’s not normal. Sometimes the cavities are not normal, and you see white walls, you see convex uteruses, and you know that it’s abnormal, it’s a consequence of ageing and adenomyosis. You have to know what you’re looking for to know what you have to treat. Diagnostic hysteroscopy is only to see some things but not treat them, we have loads of patients who have undergone diagnosis hysteroscopies that were normal, and then you see it, and it’s not normal. Not everyone knows how to identify it and treat, it that’s the most important thing.
The next step would be, if you have any embryos left or you have to undergo another IVF round, I would suggest doing PGT-A testing to rule out that it’s not an embryo problem. The second thing, the EMMA, ALICE tests are the tests that will show how your microbiome is, meaning that the lactobacilli proportion etc., is okay or if you have endometritis of some kind. The ERA test, I don’t use, and here at the clinic, we do not use it because we do not rely on it, it’s not very useful for us.
I’m not saying that nobody has to do that, just wait for the results, and maybe the results will be normal. First, just see if you have normal embryos, the second thing, study the uterus and the fallopian tubes a lot more, even if the fallopian tubes are bypassed in an IVF round, they may be dilated or affected, and that may give you a negative result. Study the uterus a lot more and see what can be done better just to go ahead and have a successful embryo transfer. The first thing is to do PGT-A testing.
That may be the cause of her not getting pregnant. If she has to undergo anaesthesia, you do not have the feeling of the patient. When we do embryo transfers, we always do them awake, no woman undergoes embryo transfer with anaesthesia because they have to tell us, I feel that you’re touching, I feel that something is getting inside, I feel pain, I feel itching, I feel something that’s stinging me. A bad transfer may not get you pregnant, and that may be because the cervical canal is difficult to canonize and if you do not have the best apparatus, the best canyons or different types of canyons. I had one woman who underwent, I don’t know how many embryos she had transferred, she was 36, and the cause was a bad embryo transfer, so that may be the cause.
If your canal is very narrow, you may not pass perfectly with the canyon. Sometimes we had to use cervical processes with a small tutor inside just to make sure that the camera was dilated correctly before we had to do the embryo transfer. When we do the hysteroscopy, we just put that tutor in just to make the canon a bit wider and make sure that we go inside perfectly.
We had 3 patients like that, but it’s something that you have to think about when you do an embryo transfer, so yes, a narrow canal, maybe, there are some cervical cysts also that can be a problem to sort out those cysts. You can also have adenomyosis in the cervix that may cause a difficult embryo transfer and cause pain, yes, of course, if you cannot analyse the uterine cervix correctly, you will have pain, it’s like inserting an IUD and the trinity device you will have pain if it’s not correctly dilated and you don’t know how to put it.
The most important thing was that the miscarriage was at week 10, and before that, you had a positive heartbeat, so probably there is a problem in the invasion of the placenta. That may cause a miscarriage, and if you have endometriosis, you will probably have adenomyosis. If you did not get tested to see if fallopian tubes were okay or not, do a Hysterosonography to see if the fallopian tubes are okay. If not, just undergo a vaginal scan with someone who understands adenomyosis and eventually a pelvic MRI just to make sure that everything is okay.
Clexane can be used when you have very inflammatory adenomyosis. Hydroxychloroquine is also used as an immunomodulator. We do not use it because we do not know how to use it, but a lot of immunologists indeed give you that medication. We do not know which impact it has in letting those embryos implant. After all, we have loads of women having those that do not get pregnant. It’s a fact that immunology is very important because it’s accepting a foreign body, and the uterus has to protect that baby from the white cells just wanting to destroy it because it’s abnormal tissue, it’s like a transplant for you. We do not know how much that helps or is not, so I don’t know if I would use it or not.
Some reports say that there’s a high risk of fetal malformations in the first trimester if we use that, but that’s something that we do not know for sure. I would advise looking for a good GP who understands a lot more about endometriosis and adenomyosis to get a good diagnosis.
It’s a compound that we give because there are lots of things that you have out there. Refractory means endometrial linings that do not grow as they should. Vitamin E is one of them that we use, but to make the lining a little thicker it’s not for implantation it’s just to give a little more energy to that blood flow, and for that endometrial lining to grow, it’s not directly implicated in implantation.
At your age, my advice would be to do a PGT-A first. TESE may be an option, it can diminish the DNA fragmentation to select better embryos, but my first advice would be to do a PGT-A because you had a biochemical pregnancy, and maybe it’s an embryo problem given your age.
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