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IVF Failure after IVF Failure – is there still a chance?

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Prof. Evangelos Papanikolaou
Founder & Reproductive Medicine Specialist, Assisting Nature - Human Reproduction & Genetics
From this event you will find out:
  • What are the most common causes of repeated implantation failure?
  • When should PGT-A be considered for patients with multiple failed IVF cycles?
  • How can the uterine microbiome influence implantation success, and what treatments are available if it’s imbalanced?
  • What role does the immune system play in implantation failure, and how is immune testing typically performed?
  • Can repeated implantation failure still be unexplained after all available testing? What steps can be taken then?

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During this event, Prof. Evangelos Papanikolaou, PhD, Co-Founder & Reproductive Medicine Specialist at Assisting Nature, Greece, discussed the potential reasons behind repeated implantation failure and what can still be done after multiple unsuccessful IVF attempts. He emphasised the importance of not giving up too soon and adopting a comprehensive and individualised diagnostic approach, which may include PGT-A (Preimplantation Genetic Testing for Aneuploidies), hysteroscopy to assess the uterine cavity, as well as microbiome and immune testing to uncover hidden factors that could impact implantation.

Prof. Papanikolaou also encouraged patients to work closely with their fertility team to tailor the treatment plan and increase the chances of a successful outcome in future cycles.

IVF Failure after IVF Failure – Is There Still a Chance?

Repeated IVF failure is one of the most emotionally and medically challenging experiences for patients and fertility specialists alike. In this expert-led webinar, Prof. Evangelos Papanikolaou, Founder and Reproductive Medicine Specialist at Assisting Nature, addressed one of the most difficult questions in reproductive medicine: what happens when IVF fails again and again, and whether pregnancy is still possible.

Speaking openly and realistically, Prof. Papanikolaou explained why repeated failure occurs, how it should be defined, and which diagnostic and treatment approaches may still offer hope.

When Is IVF Failure Considered “Repeated”?

Prof. Papanikolaou explained that defining repeated IVF failure is not straightforward, even within the scientific community. There is no universally accepted definition, and opinions differ on how many unsuccessful attempts should be considered “recurrent.”

However, he noted that a commonly accepted definition today is the failure to achieve a live birth after the transfer of four good-quality embryos in women under the age of 40. In his words, after transferring 4 good-quality embryos, “you should have at least 1 genetic embryo.” When this does not happen, the situation requires deeper investigation.

This definition helps clinicians decide when it is time to move beyond standard approaches and reconsider the entire diagnostic and treatment strategy.

The Central Role of the Embryo

One of the most important messages from Prof. Papanikolaou’s presentation was that the embryo itself accounts for the vast majority of IVF failures.

He emphasised that approximately 90% of implantation failures are due to embryonic factors, with only about 10% related to other causes. This is why, in his view, discussing repeated IVF failure without having assessed embryo genetics may not be meaningful.

He explained that in the era of advanced reproductive medicine, failing to evaluate embryo chromosomal status can lead to unnecessary treatments and prolonged emotional distress for patients.

Why Preimplantation Genetic Testing Matters

According to Prof. Papanikolaou, preimplantation genetic testing plays a crucial role when IVF fails repeatedly. Without it, clinicians may be overlooking the most likely cause of failure.

He highlighted that many patients undergo multiple embryo transfers without knowing whether the embryos are chromosomally normal. In such cases, repeated failure may not reflect a problem with the uterus or treatment protocol, but rather the genetic competence of the embryos themselves.

At the same time, he cautioned that genetic testing does not explain everything. Even if embryos are genetically normal, implantation may still fail, which is why the remaining 10% of potential causes must be carefully evaluated.

Uterine and Anatomical Factors

Among non-embryonic causes, anatomical abnormalities of the uterus are a key consideration. Prof. Papanikolaou discussed conditions such as congenital uterine septum, fibroids, and endometrial polyps, all of which can interfere with implantation.

These factors are often treatable, but only if they are properly identified. He stressed the importance of thorough imaging and, when necessary, hysteroscopic evaluation to ensure that the uterine cavity is suitable for embryo implantation.

Hormonal and Endocrine Influences

Endocrine factors may also play a role in repeated IVF failure. Even when basic hormone levels appear normal, fluctuations can occur over time.

Prof. Papanikolaou explained that thyroid function, prolactin levels, and progesterone absorption should be carefully monitored. He noted that some patients do not adequately absorb vaginal progesterone, which is why measuring progesterone levels before embryo transfer is essential. If levels are insufficient, additional subcutaneous progesterone may be required.

Immunological and Thrombophilic Factors

Immunological issues are among the most complex and controversial areas in reproductive medicine. Prof. Papanikolaou acknowledged that it is difficult to clearly define autoimmune causes of implantation failure, but he also stated that some patients struggle to accept the embryo as a “foreign body,” particularly in cases involving egg donation.

Thrombophilia was also discussed as a contributing factor in a small percentage of cases. While more commonly associated with recurrent miscarriage, clotting disorders can also affect implantation. He emphasised the importance of early pregnancy monitoring, including early pregnancy hormone testing after embryo transfer.

The Importance of the Microbiome and Endometrial Health

Prof. Papanikolaou addressed emerging evidence around the endometrial microbiome, explaining that it may influence implantation and should not be dismissed as a marketing trend.

At the same time, he expressed caution regarding the overdiagnosis of chronic endometritis, suggesting that while it may be relevant in certain cases, it should not be assumed to be the cause of failure without clear evidence.

Male Factor: An Often Overlooked Contributor

A key part of the discussion focused on male factor infertility, which Prof. Papanikolaou believes is frequently underestimated.

He explained that the use of ICSI does not eliminate all sperm-related issues. DNA fragmentation in sperm can significantly affect embryo development and implantation, even when sperm count appears acceptable.

He strongly recommended DNA fragmentation testing, particularly in cases of repeated IVF failure. Additionally, he stated that karyotyping both partners should ideally be performed early in the fertility journey, rather than after multiple failed cycles, as chromosomal abnormalities may otherwise remain undetected.

Personalised Treatment Is More Than a Buzzword

While “personalised treatment” is often used as a marketing phrase, Prof. Papanikolaou stressed that true personalisation requires experience and critical thinking.

He pointed out that lifestyle advice alone is not sufficient if patients are unwilling or unable to implement meaningful changes, such as smoking cessation. Similarly, supplements cannot compensate for unresolved underlying problems.

Personalisation also involves knowing when to seek input from other specialists, including endocrinologists, haematologists, and experienced endoscopic surgeons.

The more eyes, the better the outcome, he explained.

The Role of the IVF Laboratory Environment

The quality of the IVF laboratory was another area of strong emphasis. Prof. Papanikolaou explained that patients often have no way of knowing whether a clinic’s laboratory environment is optimal.

He expressed concern about large corporate-owned clinics where decision-making may be driven by financial considerations rather than clinical expertise. In contrast, he argued that clinics led by physicians and embryologists are more likely to maintain the highest laboratory standards, because “the baby is your IVF clinic.”

Supportive Care and Maintaining Hope

Finally, Prof. Papanikolaou addressed the emotional dimension of repeated IVF failure. He emphasised the importance of supportive care, both medical and psychological, and encouraged patients not to lose courage.

Repeated failure does not mean that pregnancy is impossible. Rather, it signals the need for deeper investigation, careful reassessment, and, in many cases, a change in strategy.

Is There Still a Chance?

According to Prof. Papanikolaou, the answer is often yes—but only when repeated IVF failure is approached with honesty, scientific rigour, and individualised care. Understanding that most failures are embryo-related, while still addressing uterine, hormonal, immunological, male, and laboratory factors, allows patients and clinicians to move forward with clearer expectations and renewed direction.

IVF Failure after IVF Failure – is there still a chance? | FAQ

I’m currently taking Prednisone for high thyroid antibodies. Would intralipids be a better option, as I find the Prednisone is causing a lot of fluid retention? 

Unfortunately, the good medications also have side effects. I think intralipids have nothing to do with this, and you should not discontinue your Prednisone. Once you do embryo transfer with a tested genetic embryo—if you are in the category I mentioned before regarding recurrent pregnancy loss or multiple IVF failures (more than 3 IVF attempts)—then you can also do intralipid on the day of the embryo transfer and, once pregnant, once every week until the 9th week of pregnancy. You should not take it always, but we should not forget that corticosteroid is a magical bullet.

Uterine NK cells are required at optimal levels during the inflammatory phase of implantation. How can we assess the pathological level during the window of implantation?

There are two types of endometrial NK cells: CD56-positive. We do phenotyping. Some companies have developed this phenotyping using uterine biopsy. What we do, if we also do a window test the same day, is take 3 different samples of endometrium: one for the window, 1 for the NK cells, and 1 for the microbiome. This way, the patient comes only once to the clinic.

The window test, I don’t do so often, I don’t believe in it so much, but in the future, it might be improved. The other 2 tests, microbiome and NK cell phenotype, I always do together.

Your doctor is responsible for interpreting the results, not you. This year, the answer might be A. After 5 years, it might be B, and after ten years, C might be closer to reality because medicine is always improving.

Is it advisable to take probiotic supplements when trying to conceive? If yes, which one is recommended?

Probiotics, I’m not sure, I think it’s too much. But if I want to take some supplement, it would be to normalise my intake when my food intake is not appropriate, for example, if I’m working many hours and not having proper meals. I think taking supplements, not probiotics, might even encourage spontaneous conception, not only improve IVF outcome.

Can you name the supplements that are most common and advisable?

I can comment only on Pregnacare, which is the first on the market. They are not expensive and have a lot of experience. We should be cautious because many supplements are very expensive but add nothing.

I have had 2 biochemical pregnancies using donor eggs. I just had my microbiome tested, and the lactobacillus was 1.21%. Could this be the reason for the chemical pregnancies?

I have never experienced less than 10%. So 1% is a dramatic result and definitely might be the reason for at least one of the two pregnancies. The other might have been caused by an abnormal embryo. Always keep in mind that taking donor eggs does not mean they are genetically normal. The donors may produce only three or four genetically good eggs, and if, by coincidence, these are taken for another couple from that specific stimulation, you will not get pregnant. That is the simple explanation for not getting pregnant with egg donation.

I think 1% is very, very low, and I don’t believe you will reach 90%. If you ever have 60–70%, feel safe to proceed.

How do you test the uterine microbiome? On which day of the cycle? How long does it take to get the results, and how much is the test?

As I told you before, we try to take this test during the implantation period. At that time, the endometrium is thicker, and we can take more specimens for the analysis. Immediately after the period is not a good idea because there are still a lot of germs in the vagina. It is better to take it after ovulation.

We like scientific evidence if there is a correct day to test for this. For our clinic, we charge around $500, if I remember well. It is not really expensive anymore. You can also find Chinese reagents for $300.

For a 45+ patient, if NK cells are around 18% and there is only 1 good embryo to transfer, no failed transfers, and few chances for more embryos, would IVIG or intralipids be recommended to improve chances? If so, which would be more appropriate?

I will not recommend intravenous antibodies. Many trials in the past have shown no real benefit. I would go more for intralipids. It is safer, less expensive, and seems to alter the immunological profile of patients.

I had 3 miscarriages, 1 failed IVF transfer, euploid, on an immune protocol. I will have my hysteroscopy next week. What tests are normally done during the procedure? I was only told about a biopsy, but not sure if there are other tests recommended. I had a uterine CS (Culture and Sensitivity) testing, which was negative. 

Uterine CS is not microbiome testing. Regarding the hysteroscopy, even if nothing is found, your doctor should perform a uterine scratching, meaning an endoscopic fundus incision. This is the real scratching nowadays. You should also test your uterus for microbiome and NK cells phenotype 100%. I do not know what “immune protocol” means — maybe corticosteroids.

I am using donor eggs because I am 45. I can now do PGT and was thinking about hysteroscopy. Am I taking the right approach? I was told once by the technician that I have a heart-shaped uterus, but my fertility doctor didn’t see it as an issue. Could I get a hysteroscopy at your clinic?

Many colleagues I respect still do not believe in the arcuate uterus. I am 100% convinced. Every year, I have 5–10 patients who do hysteroscopy, we do just scratch of the fundus, and they get pregnant spontaneously, with their embryos still in storage. Not all doctors know how to do a hysteroscopy and interpret the uterus. Even if you do not come to us, go to someone who knows how to do the real hysteroscopic fundus incision. Definitely.

I had a second-trimester loss without any specific symptoms or abnormality; my cervix just opened up. Does that happen due to any specific reason? What are the tests to be done before the next cycle and transfer?

The second trimester is another story. It might happen for other reasons. It’s another story if you had a spontaneous initiation of labour. This is a real miscarriage, because the embryo was expelled from the uterus.

If the embryo was alive and we had rupture of membranes and the amniotic fluid came out, you should test the uterus for congenital abnormalities like a septum. Or you may not have interpreted spontaneous contractions of the uterus — in that case, you have to take extra progesterone during the second trimester. Also, 100% you should test the vagina and uterus for germs, because it might start as an infection.

If the embryo had died before (missed abortion in the second trimester), this might be a genetically abnormal embryo or one with a metabolic syndrome. If you have deceased siblings in your family for whatever reason, you could do Exome sequencing to test your full genes for rare genetic disorders that both of you might be carriers of. I’m just giving some interpretations. Sometimes, there is a simple demise of the fetus because the placenta did not work appropriately, or the umbilical cord had a real knot. These things might happen.

So, it’s two different stories:

  • Having an embryo that has already died.
  • An embryo is expelled from the uterus while still alive.

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